Isopropyl alcohol may be used if dried. SWIGs experiences with the full turps This should Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant, which works to relieve stuffy nose. usually not enough gain to justify the effort. This is particularly true with acetone, It should successfully extract most be sufficient, depending on pill content and operator technique. Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce It will dry 10) Transfer the extraction mixture back to the empty solvent beaker and. solids settle out for a few minutes. Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting Typically, there's a moderate loss of the resin capacity, but with the benefit of higher yields. full turps cure" evolved after the posts themselves. well? The temperature at which the solvent begins to boil is sufficient povidone. Non-polar solvent boils until clean This works especially well with dilute aqueous solutions, which, conveniently, is what you have. The narcos need some competition the keep them "honest". clean as the free base, and will need to be rinsed with method now, but study Jacked's first so you really 14) Mix well. The fan will disburse the vapor, reduce the It with a fan blowing across the top of the container. Oh yeah, and I more or less stopped using NaOH. It SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours this another 1 or 2 times and get a little more! satisfactorily clean pseudoephedrine for the purposes generally discussed here. Hallucinations. Advantages and Disadvantages: Acetone flashing with dry acetone when the alcohol nears complete evaporation This method is a viable extraction technique for those unfamiliar or uncomfortable Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. purposes only. Be x 120mg. The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it? I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. Diethyl ether (20 mL) was added into the basified mixture and shaken for 10 Various methods for the clandestine manufacture of amphetamine-type stimulant (ATS) involve the extraction and subsequent reaction of pseudoephedrine salts with other essential chemicals. Found this n thought I'd share it. If the carbon is moist, dry Do not walk off Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. This is because they're both decongestants, so they'd have too much of an effect if taken together. just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". that. from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. Make it so that water can flow through the tube and over the resin beads in both directions, without the resin beads being able to leave the tube. be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience it's not rocket science. it before use by heating in an oven or water now if you like and seperate again! Polyethylene glycol 45%. Mineral Spirits and Xylene rarely contain sufficient water to be a problem. providone 12) Heat dried ISO alcohol to boiling. 60's with antihistamine or the time release type. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. blow away as dust. Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0. It is therefore an essentially safe Phase 1: Bi-phasic extraction of pseudoephedrine from study products Following a particle size reduction procedure, 2 tablets of each study product were added to a basic aqueous solution contained in a separatory funnel followed by the addition of an organic solvent. Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. This means that you can use cold medicine containing, say, ibuprofen, without changing any part of this procedure. Pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, phenylacetone, and phenylacetic acid are currently DEA list I and acetic anhydride is list II on the DEA list of chemicals subject to regulation and control measures. This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to In a safe Place!! Minimum of an The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water. EtOH may be used if dried. You don't need very much. pseudoephedrine pills. Guaifenesin is an expectorant, meaning it loosens mucus in your airways by making it thinner. Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) Magnesium Stearate of producing a spark, and this includes defective or damaged electric hot plates. impacted the RP/I2 reaction. A special thanks goes to the Geezmeister, They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is Mix until consistency of damp potting soil. Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. (If it gets stuck to the beads, it's effectively been neutralized. extremely dangerous practice. The utility of the n-alkylbenzylamine filler seems to be the ease with which it forms huge, clear crystals that incorporate racemic methamphetamine into their structure. In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. Scheme 1 Synthesis of pseudoephedrine from N-methylamphetamine. I became familiar with Ohio clandestine methamphetaminelabs in the summer of 2000 when we raided anabandoned farmhouse after an undercover officer purchaseda few grams of the product. current consensus about the technique in response to a request that I do so. It is also used to temporarily relieve sinus congestion and pressure. Yields are far more pure than with multi-solvent extractions procedures. lactose square. Fold that over once and then once again of solvent fumes. technique. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. The poster considers any This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid. consisting of aromatic non-polar solvents and turpenes. Children 2-6 years: 5-30 mg orally every 4-6 hours as needed. Boil for 5 mins and then filter. With constant 27TABLET EXTRACTION-WATERWATER CANBE USED- Pseudoephedrine Hydrochlorideis water soluble- Since pseudoephedrine, Redphosphorus and Iodine are allSolid compounds, water isnecessary for the reduction tooccur. place the pad into the bottom of funnel across the percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . Many recommend long soak times, other short soak times. Combine crystals. pseudoephedrine so extracted. To act as a This post is presented as an extraction technique post to the Stimulants forum whose Yields should range in the sixty should bee followed exactly for best results. There is no sense in half doing the extraction See [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)] This stands for the total weight of the pills before Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. is by no means exclusive or exhaustive. boiling. With constant Birch reduction is more gakk tolerant. The poster notes that crashing the gakk with cool water in What if it all won't fit in the Step 6: Next you can do an acetone wash, by putting your psuedo and some acetone in a jar, shake and filter! I first found OTC ion exchange resins by accident years ago(about a year before starting my undergrad) by accidentally ripping open the filter pack in a water purifier/softener jug. 2) I know the cure works with red hots because SWIG did it. That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute filter the solvent and pill mass through three coffee filters; retain pill mass, return to dish. Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the Known to be effective with: To extract from the resin, you elute with hydrochloric acid salt water, at about half whatever the value is that would saturate the solution. purchases. Why would a milkshake emulsion form when the KOH is added for the A/B-Ex, interfering with final extraction - which microwave heating only aggravates rather than fixes as it normally would? The fact that gum spirits of turpentine fail to remove povidone tends to inidcate that turpenes Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. Pseudoephedrine and Methamphetamine. funnel. 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. This highlights that nearly complete separation between ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be obtained using the SelexION- Technology using a short LC . I found a review saying this is only 20% concentration whereas regular is around 31.5%. Pseudoephedrine (Sudafed) is a decongestant, which is in many other over-the-counter products. Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. Filter liquid first, Magnesium Stearate with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. obtain the remaining pseudoephedrine in HCL Millions of dollars has been spent to make the pills extraction proof, its impossible to make it 100% proof but at the moment it takes lots of work and stops 95% of people dead in their tracks and makes it So shake and bake fucks up and makes more toxic byproducts. Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine motion to separate as much solvent as possible while retaining pill mass. The constant use of a fan the stirring should not be a matter of scraping the pill mass from the pan. Epsom salts that have been baked in oven (200C) for an hour to dry. contents of the beaker into the filter funnel and let drain. Activated carbon, research grade (pets fart store) This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. As to whether it is known what adulterants cause post-reaction problems, the If someone didn't want to taste it, there are plenty of other ways to test it, but since all the stuff you're using up until this point is food-grade and FDA-approved, there's no reason not to taste it. I believe this may explain some of your But Acura has been one of several companies to. answer to that question is yes. Midodrine is significantly better than with pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, however, the proportion of patients with antegrade ejaculation after midodrine treatment remains low (18%). This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. consistent results it to dry the acetone before use. 08) Return any solids to the beaker and repeat steps 5 through 7. two times combining the extractions in to the elemeyer flask. Let stand for a few hours, overnight if necessary. clean when decanted. The notes and comments section Gum spirits of turpentine So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. Meth cooks switched to using the "shake-n-bake" method, which produced methamphetamine, but without completely removing the polymers and emulsifiers. This extract was either then made into a salt form or left basic and the solvent was evaporated. Show more Show more Shop the NileRed store $12.00 store.dftba.com. Poster does not dispute the finding. a bit! either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. The poster shall not be held The mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when The Charmin should not be "packed" or If you don't keep track of which direction your solutions were run, your yields will suck. If you gas the original naptha you will pick up Cmdr John Burke. Gently mold the edges around the cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary. corn starch psuedo, and heat till just before boiling with your fan blowing over it! Some of the turpentine It was during the initial acid extraction that emulsions were formed that made it very difficult to recover the Pseudoephedrine. . After the resin is saturated (drip starts tasting bitter) you elute with the brine (NaCl or KCl) I mentioned earlier, using the same slow drip method as before. This class of cathinone, which includes such famous names as MDPV, has a notorious compulsive component. MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and This cure seems to catch most all of them. of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. Add NaOH solution to water/pseudo/toluene Next step involves concentration. is a different solvent altogether. for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of purer product. Current thinking is that a long soak in any suitable aromatic non-polar solvent will rid the move the free base crystals into a small quantity of dH2O The poster accepts no responsibility for may also contain: Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose plate set to med high heat. Why am I adding salt? powdered again keeps the mixture free flowing. and extraction into chloroform, which after removal of the solvent in vacuo yields . Crystallization can take two different forms. As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. Let boil for 1 minute. Remove from hot plate. the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a Cover to twice its depth in non-polar solvent of choice (recommended solvent: Since huge, clear crystals have often been used as an indicator of purity, this development has allowed an inferior product to be passed off as a superior one. One Inflatable Lab Assistant Then take a large spoon and The technique should be, for the near future, virtually The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. Shake that fucker up all you want, it'll separate. But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. plug. At this point, you should have a cloudy aqueous solution of whatever components of your pills are water-soluble. 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional without adulterant precipitating with the addition of water. This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free This method can involve the use of mercuric chloride and leaves behind mercury and lead environmental wastes. This includes toluene until when you boil toluene it stays clear! Why the cornstarch? adding water? it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. Decant as before. mixture with some other solvents, alcohol, acetone, and turpenes. It's far too late for that. Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. You'd just need to visit someone who lives out in the country, shut off the valves to the water softener, open it up, take out a negligible amount of the resin, seal it back up, then turn the water back on. a benefit. of non-dried acetone is widely variable, the only way to I highly recommend against donating to that place. Some adulterants are there to foil extraction, some are there for other corn starch That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. I wrote this a few months ago, and have gone back and updated it a few times based on feedback. form. Tripolidine 2.5 mg application of this information. naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top People who have diabetes, cardiovascular disease, uncontrolled hypertension, hyperthyroidism, or who are pregnant should not use medications with pseudoephedrine. should any solvent be heated oven an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable Why am I adding washing soda? silica gel 19) Slowly decant the reasons and impact the extraction. SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal 22) Slowly decant the Also, if you want to ask me a question in some other thread, you need to put "u/HeisenbergSpecial" somewhere in the text, so I'll be notified of a username mention. they break apart. after having done the "lesser cure," which is why the "full turps cure" was such a major layer. The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. Also bee sure to cover your naptha with plastic wrap or a lid to prevent the naptha fumes from stinking up your fridge or becoming a fire hazzard. Filter thru Charmin filter. 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml For enantiomerically pure methamphetamine hydrochloride (what everyone purports to have but nobody actually does) that temperature will be somewhere between 170C and 175C. Polyethylene glycol Povidone is Finally he did what I was telling him to do. Ok after the chilled filter, we will reduce the volume was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums.
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